Finite and Infinite

This has been by far the most complicated chapter we have studied so far, the topics adressed on this chapter arent easy to understand.

Im going to focus on the topic of the universe and the definition of finite and infinite. Savater proposes uses 2 definitions of the universe, the light one ( the universe is the clearly OUTLINED totality, distinct for the sum of its different part) and a heavy one ( the universe is the name we give to the INDERTEMINED collection or sum of all that exists, a semantic abbreviation, a placeholder)

the light definition seems to be pretty digerible, however theres no way we can prove if the universe is outlined or not as we cannot prove the universe is indetermined or not.

as a friend told me once, humanity has a problem with the definition of finite and infinite things, if an object is finite, theres something outside of it, but what if that outside is part of it? what if the universe is finite, in the sense that what is outside the universe is also part of the universe? it would be like a country, where the land mass is the country but the sea close to it is also considered part of the country, even when is different from what makes up the land mass of the country ( and heres comes the &%$& questions, how to define whats the outside of something? and in my metaphor, what about the outside of the outside? what about the sea that isnt part of any country?)

if we define the universe as infinite, there are no arguments to claim this and it would be like trying to win a debate with no arguments. Why? because as we havent encouenter any infinite object( or whatever other word for it) we cant really know how it is. In the finite option, we at least can imagine a finite object ( we die, our limit is our body, the earth has an area of 510 072 000 km^2 etc) but have we encountered an infinite one? In order for something to be infinite, we would have to be infinite if we want to prove its infinity.

a theory to end this topic i heard is that the universe is in an cycle, where after x time, the universe gets "reseted" and starts over again. even when in this theory it would seem that the universe would be infinite as it never ends , now we must focus on the fact of if the cycle gets degraded or not If when reseted the universe is degraded by 0.000000000000001 of its whole, then it would be really loooong, but not eternal, the infinity of the universe in this theory would depend on another infinity, the infinity of the cycle